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    Default Education cuts demo, London - Radical students/workers bloc call-out

    Search facebook event 'Radical Workers' and Students' Bloc'

    Or if you don't want to be part of the radical students bloc at least attend the demo!
    Search facebook event 'Fund Our Future : Stop the Cuts - National Demonstration'

    On Wednesday 10th November 2010 the NUS and UCU have organised a
    demonstration in London in protest against the cuts in education. We are
    calling on all anarchists and militant workers and students to join us
    in forming a 'Radical Workers' and Students' Bloc' on the demonstration,
    arguing for all those in education to fight the cuts based on the
    principles of solidarity, direct action, and control of our own
    struggles - not for a struggle controlled by union bureaucrats and
    political "leaders" who can only go so far.

    The need for workers and students to organise together as one has never
    been more pressing, and it is us that will be the demonstrators standing
    our ground in defence of the independent class struggle, against the
    "Left" which will seek to channel dissent into the election of another
    Labour government. We push for a widespread fightback based in our
    workplaces and campuses, as well as in the streets, acting in solidarity
    with fellow workers and communities fighting these austerity measures
    all over the world.

    We also intend to be a visible anti-capitalist presence on the
    demonstration pointing out that it is capitalism that has caused the
    crisis that has led to these cuts, and that in response to their class
    war we need to reciprocate: meeting cuts with direct action ?
    occupations, strikes and civil disobedience - whilst fighting for a
    better world which puts human needs first.

    Bring red and black flags, banners and propaganda. The student and
    workers movement needs anarchist ideas and methods more than ever if
    we're to beat the cuts.

    Meet at 11am at Horse Guards Avenue, SW1.

    - Anarchist Federation (UK)
    - North and South London Solidarity Federation

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    Just to be a douche I'm going to put it out there than anarchism is stupid. Good luck with your whole anti-capitalist movement, down with the man and all that. *long drawn out sigh*

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    Why is anarchism stupid? Also there are a plethora of anarchisms, and I don't necessarily agree with all the forms it takes. For me anti-capitalism isn't a movement, it's a standpoint and a way of life. And yeah, you are a douche.

    The main purpose of the post was to highlight and promote the demo anyway.

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    All forms of anarchism are unrealistic and often only appeal to naive people, in my opinion, that's why it's stupid. Also why do you hate capitalism so much? Do you wish for there to be no economy? Nevertheless I bid you and your demonstration good luck.

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    I wish for there not be a capitalist economy. Capitalism exploits people and profits the few, and relies on consumerism which I also oppose.

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    Capitalism exploits people and profits the few, and relies on consumerism which I also oppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaRain View Post
    I wish for there not be a capitalist economy. Capitalism exploits people and profits the few, and relies on consumerism which I also oppose.
    Capitalism has benefited all of us, to pretend otherwise is retarded. You wouldn't be sitting in front of a shiny computer typing bollocks if we hadn't had it. I'll tell you what I told somebody else: If you want anarchy, go ask a Somalian how they feel about their anarchistic society and if they'd rather have strong government and the rule of law. Of course, you'll have to find some that aren't starving or driven to piracy to survive in order to ask them, but I'm sure you can try.

    And for the record: The "anarchist" twat-bags who turn up to every single London demo are arseholes who don't give a shit about the issues they're supposedly protesting - if they cared, they wouldn't do the government a massive favour every single time there's a demo by totally overshadowing and discrediting the real demonstrators and the issues they're trying to get coverage of. How many news sources lead with "majority of students in peaceful protest over fees cuts" last week? Not. One. The violence at Millbank Tower, however, was live on twelve channels and on the front page of every paper - fees were barely mentioned.

    Sorry, but if you support that kind of stupidity then you're either ignorant of the consequences of your actions and thus an idiot for not thinking them out properly or you're a total douche-nozzle who just wants an excuse to have a pop at the police.

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    Wow, for a bunch of people who look fairly radical you're all complete moral majority morons. What the situation in Somalia has to do with anarchist ideals is beyond me. That's like saying socialism is evil because of Lenin. (Non-individualist) Anarchist ideals are about solidarity and mutual aid. Not piracy and starvation.

    No news sources would have discussed peaceful protest because this stuff doesn't make the news, it doesn't make any difference. 750,000 attended the stop the war march and it did fuck all. For the govt. to pay any attention to the anti-fee hike movement they must seem like a strong, credible threat. Direct action and civil disobedience have historically achieved a lot. There have also been a plethora of positive news stories, radio chat shows and 'celebrities' condoning the activity at Millbank.

    You don't need to have capitalism to have computers. And just because I have 'benefited' from capitalism doesn't mean I have to support it. You can't help the situation you are born in to.

    Also in response to "welcome to the basis of human society": capitalist society is not human society. Capitalist society has barely been around 300 years.

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    A strong credible threat? Are you kidding me? They looked like a foamy-mouthed rabble and are now, quite rightly, getting arrested one-by-one for it.

    We "look fairly radical"?! Because we've got tats and piercings we must all be crusty anarchists?! GTFO you offensive little prick!

    And Somalia IS AN ANARCHIST SOCIETY, dipshit! It's currenlty the ONLY anarchist society that exists but it most certainly isn't the only one from history - and guess what they've all been like? Somalia, where those with the biggest weapons and the biggest muscles rule over everybody else by terror. The fact that you're too stupid to think "hmm, anarchy plus human nature, where's that going?" is not a reason for the rest of us to tolerate the TINY MINORITY that think anarchy is a good idea.

    You think violence is somehow clever, why? Have you ever had to clean up the mess afterwards? Boy, I'd love to take you on a fourteen hours shift in A&E after a gang of your dickhead mates do their thing on a demo and show you what the real human cost is... Not that you'd care, because as you're amply demonstrating every time you sit at your keyboard, your a thoughtless, selfish little prick. Now STFU and don't let the door hit you in the arse.

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    I never said anything about supporting violence against other people. I don't think 'violence' is clever. I think that direct action and civil disobedience are necessary.

    Just because Somalia is an anarchist society does not mean that it is a perfect reflection of what an anarchist society can or should be. America and England are supposed to be democracies, and look at what a joke they are.

    I don't really understand why you are making such assumptions about me such as I'm selfish, stupid or aggressive. Actually I think the way you are talking to me is far more representative of those traits. I feel massively personally attacked.

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