lobes and fat rings

[name_is_matt]

i have my lobes stretched up to 10mm with tunnels, but i would like some advice on circular barbells that will be heavy enough to keep them open but not stretch them too much more, confused? i want them with an i.d as small as possible. i want saggy lobes! thanks

[extremedd]

Well if you want to hold the holes open but not stretch then you need light weight barbells, if you want saggy lobes you need to stretch bigger! I think i read somewhere lobes tend to get droopy around 18mm!

If you perhaps got some heavy 5 or 6mm barbells it would make your lobes look saggy but not stretch them, if you get what i mean Im sure i read some kind iof calculation for working out what weight to have in waht size lobe somewhere aswell, i really cant remember where though