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Dawn - Just because nature gave us the parts to reproduce doesn't mean that's the whole point of life. Hell it gave me the parts to do handstands but that's not the point of life is it?
Tegoz - I have no time for people like those you mentioned. Having children isn't the only way to make your life meaningful. What about doctors that spend their entire lives helping people but don't have kids? Their lives certainly aren't meaningless
Nat i never said it was
Fair enough, you just seemed to be backing up that side of the argument
Iv grown past the stage where i chose sides, we are no longer at school. I form my own opinion alot of the time its different to everyone else's.
As with alot of disccusions, my opinion will cover both opinions... im weird like that.
I'm happy for you. All I was saying was that was how it came across. Now you've made it clear it wasn't so everythings peachy
Having kids is a pain. Kids make messes, stress you out, limit what you can do and when, and how it can be done. There's actually a line in the book White Oleander that made me realize even more that I never want kids. It's when the mother of the main character is describing to her daughter how nice it was when she abandoned her for a year and just did whatever she wanted. It made me realize that if you're not 110 percent invested in having kids, you shouldn't have them.
The point of MY life is to enjoy it as much as possible. As human beings we were given the ability to rise above instincts, and do other things with our lives besides reproduce. I choose to enjoy other things in life. I want to travel, learn languages, get tattoos and piercings, graduate college, learn about the world, and better myself.
I don't think there's anyone who can deny that with a child, these things would be much, much harder to accomplish. Even finishing school. I had a classmate who had to have her parents watch her 2-year-old while she was in class. It was a hardship for them, and for her. Having kids is great for the people who have made the decision to invest their entire lives in it. For everyone else, I really think being childfree is the best option, especially for those who feel pressured to have kids by society or family but don't really want kids. I get asked why I don't want kids, but nobody ever seems to get asked why they DO want them.
its this that differentiates our species from the rest of the animal kingdom! we have the intelligence to make choices, determine our own paths in life!Quote:
Originally Posted by swimmingthroughrain
what about those people who didnt choose to get pregnant tho? accidental pregnancies are more and more common especially among teenagers! even tho these people havent chosen to be parents, they step up! (well, most do!) their lives are put on hold while they raise a child! but they do it! x
i think ill start usein the internet an books an movies to pull up reasons to have children... as that seems to be the only way to get a point across with some ppl
my sister was 15 when she had her first! her life was most definately on hold! just cos something worked for you doesnt mean it works for everyone else! her education, social life, career is something she is really only gettin now! so yea, her life was on hold! x
I can't really say anything about accidental pregnancies except to say that I would not have an accidental pregnancy because I am consciously making the decision not to have kids, and this decision informs all of my other decisions that could possibly affect my decision not to have kids. People get pregnant accidentally all the time and are happy and love their kids, it's just that this is not a path I want to take.
Most people love their kids. It doesn't mean that everyone should have them. Loving or not loving your kids has nothing to do with whether you were financially and emotionally equipped to raise a child to the age of 18, and sometimes beyond (my friend still lives with his parents due to a number of unfortunate circumstances, at age 23, and they have to nag him to take his medication and shower and change his clothes and even EAT).
Having a child is a life-altering, permanent decision. It's amazing how many people drift through life not giving it a second thought.